Sunday, September 10, 2006

Back to square one

Friday afternoon we pieced the Joe Cell back together (well, when I say 'we', I mean my dad under my nagging ;) ) It shows how experience can speed things up. I think it took my dad and I, once we had ever piece measured and shaped, about an hour to build our simple cell last time... this time my dad built it in under 20 minutes.

The two things that concerened my about rebuilding the cell were
  1. Cylinder Polarity - According to many on the group, and especially Wim my Dutch friend, each cylinder has a natural + or - and for the cell to function correctly, the polarity must be aligned together. This we havent done or tested for. However you can also force the polarity (if i remember rightly) by striking the end of the cylinder with the + or - of a charging cable (don't quote me on that technique, but it's something like that).
  2. Cylinder alignment - You also need to make sure that, if the cell has been used before, that you align each cylinders rotation to the same as before... now... as far as I'm concerened, in my tiny little mind this is just because it's "got used" to being aligned a particular way, I think this can probably be overcome with time.
So the first charge was pretty uneventful, but we're fine, we expect progress to be as slow as before. The fact that we are using exactley the same materials as before, yet when we tested our well water before taking the cell apart we had instant pulsation in the cathode, and now we're getting nothing, does seem to back up the two construction theories above.

We had 600ma of our first few charges, water is still around 7ph, which is great. Nice slow bubble action into the two neutrals. However, I decided to add a little water to take it above the cylinders, but in my 'crippled' state, meant I could only drop the water in from a height. When I did this it completely changed the reaction of the cell, the bubbles started only forming small ones (just hydrogen?) and a 3 way "jet" of bubbles began shooting out from the cathode. This settled down after 10 mins, but seemed to leave a residual effect of an extra 50ma, even when I took water out to lower it back below the cylinder level.

There's also definatley more of a smell of ozone coming from the cell, however, this could always have been there but is now less disguised by other smells as I've passivied the cylinders. Final observation was how clean it's now running, no brown scum at all.

Friday, September 08, 2006

The healing paradox

Well what a week!

Turns out the Herxheimer Reaction is having no more affect on me than my mothers advice to eat my greens. Went to docs and I've been told I'm suffering from nervous exhaustion and stress. So I was told to take something up to get rid of all that tension, so I went for a game of squash with a mate and... dislocated my shoulder. this is how things stand, so lets get back to the subject at hand, and most importantly what I consider to be a paradox in relation to me being around the cell in my current state.

As has been stated so many times, those of a negative attitude, or the sick, can adversly affect the operation of the cell, however, there are similar contradictions stating that the cell can "heal". So, what do I do?

Well, for one I wont be able to help with the construction of the cell, I only have the use of my left arm at the moment (so excuse typos!) so my dad will taking on the rebuild of the cell, then I guess we'll just see what happens. I've had a few fellow experimentors telling me to dose my shoulder in stage III water, pff, gotta reach stage III first!

Good health!

Monday, August 28, 2006

Herxheimer reaction

After posting about my illness on the Joe Cell group, Bernie has stated that any health properties from interaction with orgone are only positive, and that I (and others) might be suffering from something called the "Herxheimer Reaction".

The Herxheimer Reaction is a short-term (from days to a few weeks) detoxification reaction in the body. As the body detoxifies, it is not uncommon to experience flu-like symptoms including headache, joint and muscle pain, body aches, sore throat, general malaise, sweating, chills, nausea or other symptoms.

I am suffering from all the above. Ok, that doesn't mean that I have the Herxheimer Reaction, but it's something to consider at least.

The cell was dismantled earlier this afternoon, I should feel fine again within 24 hours, if I don't then it's not Joe Cell related! (and it's time to see the doctor)... time will tell


Those who know me well, will know that I've been constantly ill for over a month now. This is out of character as I rarely get anything more than the odd cold a couple of times a year.

At the moment, I seemed to be suffering from a combination of swollen throat glands, tempreture, swelling in my head causing horrible headaches and sometimes in my neck too.

My wife has more than once jokingly blamed it on the Joe Cell, tho I never really gave it any serious thought until a regular poster on the joecell yahoo group described exactley the same coincidence in himself after he built an orgone accumalator. He made the connection himself to this accumulator and said that the symptoms only stopped when he destroyed it.

Well, today we are heading over to dismantle the cell and give it a general clean, passify it in some coca-cola (damn waste if you ask me) and then boil it in some citric acid. Once ive cleaned the cell I think I am going to leave it dismantled for a couple of weeks then come back to it, just to see if it affects my illness in anyway. Probably wont, scary (or coincidence of course) if it does, but its worth a try!

Saturday, August 26, 2006

The water hunt

So another Dutch friend of mine came over to England, and last Saturday and we decided to head out to "Swallow Springs" which is a natural spring near Marlborough.

So I'm going to cut a long story short... 150 mile round trip, lovely scenery.... dryed up completely....

At this point my dad had already cleaned out the cell ready for our eagerly anticipated spring water, so with nothing better to do, we decided to chuck in some shop bought highland spring, wow, talk about a different reaction... I mean, it didnt give us what we wanted, but crickey you can tell the difference when charging between rain and bottled water.

Now, my sister has her water provided to her from a deep well, so we decided to collect some of this this week. Brough it back down from Berks, poured it into the cell and watched... flicked on the switch... 6 amps! Holy shit.. what? Turned the cell off... "bugger" i thought, "the water must be contaminated"... So I dug out a couple of coffee filters to at least try and clean any general contaminates in it... poured it back in the cell and "6 amps"... bollocks ...bollocks ...bollocks!

Then of course I thought that its probably quite alakli and something in there is acting as an electrolyte, so I did a PH test and it came out dead on 7! Now, to get this type of water that has such high conductivity and such neutral PH is VERY hard to come by... I was chuffed!

I pulled out all the cabling, rigged up the 2 old battery chargers in series, and tried again... 670ma's! yes! I can charge my cell without fear for my life!

I think I came a little bit too hung up on amperage, I posted on our Joe Cell yahoo group and Bernie (joe cell experimentor in Aus) confirmed that I should just leave it as is, or in fact revert to 1 charger, as he put it (para-phrasing) "Think of the charging process as a certain amount of amp's per hour, if you have low amperage, just charge longer, just dont let it get hot!"...

....oops, our previous set up used to scorch the bloody, oh well, back to square one i guess. So we have the cell a very rough clean, dropped in some of my sister juice (man, that sounds SO wrong) and we had instant pulsation, the water in the anode was bobbing up and down like nobodies business!... it settled down after about 30 seconds, but I was obviously happy.

So today I've rushed out to buy some citric acid to partly passify the cells, I may even try soaking in coca-cola as phosphric acid is supposed to do the trick, and then in the next few days ill re-assemble the cell and start again with this good water.

By the way, sorry for lack of pictures, what we've done so far has been very poorly documented, hence this blog!

Water and first charges

So, how about the water we used then?

Well, initially my dad had saved up a good amount of rain from a thunderstorm. So we hooked this all up, fed a battery charger to the cell and got an amperage reading....0... oh dear :(

After much deliberating we decided to put 2 chargers in series, and whay, we were off the mark, an amazing 150 millamps ! (about 10% of our target).

I'm not going to go into great detail about what other idiotic things we tried, needless to save that after a lot of deliberating and pencil maths, we decided we need to feed the cell about 140 volts AC to get our 1-1.5 amps.

To achieve this, we decided we would have to feed off the mains. No whilst my dad is quite adept when it comes to handling things that can kill you, I'm rather more blasé. So, after a bit of reading and help from a friend in America, I realised I needed a bridge rectifier (to convert AC to DC) and to permentantly put our multimeter in series.

So I popped off down to Maplin and bought what I needed, rigged it all up, and (yes I know UK voltage is roughly 240vac) let her rip.... holy jesus christ, FIIIIIZZZZZ, this thing went mental....I er... think we were probably giving it too much juice! (judging by the 6 amp reading!)

So we turned it all off, had a think and realised that we needed "something" to provide around 100vac. (A bridge rectifier, as I learned, not only converts to DC but ads roughly 40% to the voltage).

For the past few weeks, we've been running off this set up, getting about 1.6 volts and not much to speak about. We appeared to have Stage II type bubble formations, and a lot of bubbles hanging about, but as far as I was concered we had too many issues, the main one I believed being the water!


I'm by no means an author, I don't write very coherently and I'm certainly not going to make a big effort for this blog to have fantastic entertainment factor... so with that in mind, here's how we built the cell...

I bought few weeks back and just chucked a forum on it. I 'm not looking to monopolise the readership in the UK, I just wanted to feel like I was helping out. Anyway, one fella on the board got in contact with me from Holland and said there was a "Joe Cell" convention in his country. Nice idea, even tho no-ones reached the holy-grail of getting a car engine to run 100% off the cell, it's a nice idea to gather lots of people in one place and discuss ideas. One good thing that did come out of the meeting though was a consensus to all chip in together to purchase some stainless steel for people to manufacture their cells.

The steel itself was 316L, which if you don't know is a type of steel that is very low in carbon and magnetism (apparently magnetism affects the cell in a negative way). So a few weeks later and my pocked a few €'s lighter I had my 4 rings of stainless steel.

My next problem came from what to put the rings in. Now I bought a large glass vase from our local Asda (nothing by the finest for my cell, eh?) but whilst storing the metal rings in the glass, it decided to one day explode the glass. It wasnt attached to anything, wasn't hot, but it still managed to cut what looking like a very well manufactured edge through the glass and dump it on the floor. So back to the drawing board.

The following weekend I was in Belgium visiting the in-laws, when I noticed that my father-in-law (great bloke btw) had a hoard of huge jam jar type things with sealable lids. I phone my dad up in England to get the outside diameter measurement, and it appeared that the rings were going to fit fine! (which in actual fact they did!)

So what's left? Well we then needed a way of seperating out the cells. After a few false starts and a bit of money wasted on ebay, we settled for chemical stoppers, those big orange/red rubber things you get on the top of demijohns. My dad has a grinder, so we decided with the aid of a fine bladed hacksaw to cut roughly the right shape and then use the grinder for final precision, and let me tell you, if you don't have a good grip on a little piece of rubber and you show it to a grinder... well... you can..... PING...... kiss that piece of rubber goodbye!

After a lot of frustration, my dad managed to manufacture the rubber pieces, and we gave the cylinders a final polish and pieced it all together (not forgetting to wedge a couple of cables in for the anode and cathode).

And there we go, our first Joe Cell, ain't she a darlin'?


So why is this blog here?

I get asked regularly what it is that my dad and I are "messing with" in the garage, or colleagues looking over my shoulder wondering what "joe cell" is all about. So I'm going to first of all recount the usual speel I give to them. Hopefully it's fairly accurate.

About 3 months ago now I stumbled across a device called a "Joe Cell" whilst researching free energy devices.

Ok, now I'm going to be lazy and find an extract from the internet and cut and paste it in here...

A Joe Cell is similar to an electrolysis cell built with concentric stainless steel pipes. Generally with diameters of 1, 2, 3, and 4 inch diameters, and sometimes with a 5 inch also. Different theories of length hold that the cylinders should be between 4" and 10" long. There are many theories of how a cell works. It is generally accepted to be an Orgone Accumulator.

An operating cell progresses through a series of stages, the first of which is simple electrolysis, the second is referred to as the seeding stage, in which the cell builds up a charge in the water, which eventually reaches a point where the cell will run an engine. There are higher stages that supposedly can be achieved. For example, stage 4 is supposed to nullify gravity. There are people who claim to have approached this stage, with the car weight getting less and less. Interestingly enough there is no current running through a breeding cell when it is running a car. Once the water is charged sufficiently no further energy is required. The cell is generally connected to the car through an aluminium tube to someplace on the block close to a water passage. It will then charge the coolant water, which will provide the energy to run the engine.

The cell causes an implosion in the engine rather than an explosion, so the timing must be significantly advanced so the spark occurs during the compression stroke. A running engine will get cold rather than hot. A car running on a good cell can be idled down to 1 or 2 rpm, and can easily accelerate to 18,000 rpm. Joe cells are notorious for messing up the cars electronics, so it is a bad idea to try one with an EFI engine. (Bernie)

Wierd stuff I'm sure you'll agree. The thing is, stories and idea's pop up on the internet all the time, ones like these that just make you think "ok, well, I'll wait and let everyone see if it's real". But for once I felt compelled to give this a go. I showed my dad what the cell was, how it was supposed to work and he was more than keen to have a go.

So at the moment, my dad and I have the basics of a Joe Cell, and in the next post I'll tell you where we got all of the materials from and how we constructed it.